00:39:20	Helga:	The presentation is not shared.
00:39:29	Yoav Levi:	The presentation is not online
00:43:12	Francoise M:	I cannot see the presentation, only the presenter.
00:44:34	Yoav Levi:	Thanks!
01:12:00	Rafiq hamdi:	Was there any benefit for the new vegetation on snow performance over orography region?
01:28:16	Francoise M:	Thank you for the interesting presentations.
1- Can you tell us a bit more about the collaboration you expect by making ECLand open source?
2- Do you consider the impact of all improvements on soil moisture? 
3- Will ECLand components benefit the H SAF SM root zone products in the years to come?
4- Can you clarify the link between ECLand and LDAS ?
01:30:00	Patricia de Rosnay (ECMWF):	Francoise, on point 4, ECLand currently is the offline model only. As indicated in my presentation, we are developing the offline LDAS and it will be part of ECLand in the near future too.
01:30:59	Patricia de Rosnay (ECMWF):	Francoise, point 3, yes, H SAF RZSM products rely on ASCAT (and SCA in the future) in ECLand.
01:31:12	Rafiq hamdi:	ok thanks a lot!
01:36:21	Jan De Pue (RMI):	Hi Gianpaolo, thanks for the presentation! A question related to the coupling with hydrology. Does it also include groundwater hydrology, and is it coupled to the soil profile above?
01:38:00	Gianpaolo Balsamo:	@Francoise, ECLand Open Source is part of the ECMWF strategy to Open Development to fully benefit collaborators https://www.ecmwf.int/en/about/media-centre/news/2022/making-some-integrated-forecasting-system-open-source
01:40:10	Gianpaolo Balsamo:	@Francoise ECLand is benchmarked with several insitu datasets, for instance those in https://modelevaluation.org but also ISMN and others.
01:45:01	Gianpaolo Balsamo:	The expectation for ECLand share of code and ancillary dataset may be to share common challenges (Patrick/Katia presentation is spot on).
01:45:58	Matthias Raschendorfer, Naumburg:	Patrick, do you already treat some kind of snow-interception at roughness elements (like trees and the related dripping off?
As to excessive melting of fractional snow from below, in ICON, we use so-called dynamic snow-tiles for the snow-covered part within a usual land-use tile.
01:48:52	Patricia de Rosnay (ECMWF):	Sorry I have to go to another meeting. Thanks for the great presentations and discussions!
01:49:50	Gianpaolo Balsamo:	@Jan de Pue thanks for your question, and for the river hydrology we use CaMA-Flood model coupled to ECLand. However it is not yet coupled to the soil column in 2-way mode (so no groundwater recharge yet). We couple 1-way for the time being. More info on CaMA/Flood here http://hydro.iis.u-tokyo.ac.jp/~yamadai/cama-flood/
01:51:39	Jan De Pue (RMI):	ok, thanks!
01:51:48	Gianpaolo Balsamo:	@Rafiq Hamdi, thanks for the question, the evaluation of the snow ML in orography was done in the framework of a collaboration with Silvia Terzago, https://hess.copernicus.org/articles/24/4061/2020/
01:52:52	Rafiq hamdi:	@Gianpaolo: thanks a lot, great paper, i will read it carfully
01:57:01	Gianpaolo Balsamo:	@Rafiq please feel free also to contact gabriele.arduini@ecmwf.int on snow questions also directly. We will be keen to look at snow/vegetation interaction in orographic area using some of the new promising products based on Sentinel 1. Gabrielle De Lannoy gave a great keynote at the recent ECMWF Annual seminar https://www.ecmwf.int/en/about/media-centre/news/2022/annual-seminar-challenges-physics-context-seamless-prediction and we will be keen to use some of these very high res products. Thanks a lot and see you soon.
01:59:45	Rafiq hamdi:	@Gianpaolo: thanks a lot!
02:11:35	Gianpaolo Balsamo:	@Patrick & Katia: great presentation on the ACCORD consortium efforts to share the challenges. We are aligned on many of those topics. I see particularly the “ancillary dataset”, the "moderation of complexity", and the link with “LDAS satellite product uptake” being common streams for collaboration. We had great benefit from collaboration with Meteo-France (thanks to Patrick Le Moigne and Colleagues) on the ancillary datasets and ECOCLIMAP_SG based on ESA-CCI LU/LC. We will operationalise the urban tile based on that shared effort. https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1029/2020MS002375 .
02:13:27	Gianpaolo Balsamo:	Apologies I need to leave to another meeting. I will be keen to watch the recordings for the talks that I have missed. Thanks again @Patrick and All and see you soon.
02:36:13	Microson hostBib:	@Matthias: Yes, snow interception module is implemented in the MEB scheme. Pleqse see the reference to the MEB paper in the presentation.
04:20:24	Benedikt Strajnar:	Loik, can you comment on the relation of the resolution of the ensemble and the resolution of the EnVar analysis. What is your experience, what resolution jumps we may afford?
04:22:19	Benedikt Strajnar:	Thank you!
04:22:53	Loïk Berre:	Thanks Benedikt for your question!
06:12:35	Marco Arpagaus -- MeteoSwiss:	Reference is EPS: 50 members at 9km mesh-size. Either (much) higher resolution or (many) more members ...